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Too much good stuff in here, J&E. That film was wonderful and riveting on several levels, and I'm glad you pointed out the fact that it was so hard-earned. Honestly one of the best experiences I've had watching a movie was the first time I fired this up on the DVD.

Activate rant mode: as an East-Coast-bred guy who lived in Cali for many years and married a Midwest girl and has been, ahem, forced to spent a lot of time in Milwaukee, I have appreciation for several of the things you hinted at here...

How it seems like a large chunk of the "creative class" or "entrepreneur class" (and I'm talking specifically about my own observations from living in Cali for 20 years) has some sort of major family $ support. Not to discredit what they do, it just means they are afforded the time and luxury to start their little clothing boutique or shampoo company or work on their fourth movie even though the first three didn't make $. My experience is with Socal, but I imagine this can apply to NYC or SF or any dope artistic cultural capital where people are doing dope shit and you just automatically figure they are killing it at life, when in reality they have major support behind the scenes.

Of course, it's all good, bitching about this is a slippery slope, and lots of us have enjoyed certain advantages in life that are not based purely upon money (as referenced here King Johah inherited mad creativity and was modeled a can-do-spirit from his folks) And no matter how much $ you have, you still have to dedicate time and hard work to get stuff done, and yes that does mean that sometimes family and relationships don't get the time they deserve, another point to J&E. What if, in the sure-to-be-groovy-hopefully Aquarian age, we find a way to support and nurture creativity and somehow overcome money/time as a barrier to entry, so we don't miss any potential geniuses of artistic expression along the way, because time waits for no one and Father Time is undefeated and we all need time to make a dope rhyme. Maybe TikTok is the answer, IDFN.

More regional clichés coming at you, American Movie could only have come from the Midwest, because the comical sincerity (and dogged determination) that it took to make this film seems to be a byproduct of that culture, and it's that same quasi-naivety that makes the whole thing so touching and REAL. The ridiculous pronunciation of "Coven" sums it up— that friggin' word becomes its own character in the film. If brothers were from the East Coast they would have been too self-aware to let it ride like this without having some meta master plan. (Maybe the production value would've been better too...)

But all credit to American Movie and these dudes. In the end, we are all just little seagulls trying to navigate the beach trying to get some crumbs and maybe fine a nice spot nest. Some of us just want to build dope artsy stick castles out of tiny pieces of driftwood while the masses fight over leftover burgers in styrofoam boxes. It happens to help if you hatched on a beach in Montecito with unlimited driftwoodsticks and the burgers are kobe beef from The Miramar. But even if you hatched on shitty lake in Fon Du Lac with no burgers, crappy sticks, and limited cheese curds, you can make art that will reach people if it's in YOUR DNA! At least that's the hope. Thanks spyplane for the dope insights.

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Oh man, Rest in Power Mike! I'm glad its ya'll that are breaking this news to me.

*Many* years ago a friend of mine, who was a sound man on indie films hit me up and was like "let's go see the premiere of this movie, it sounds cool" (maybe it was part of Tribeca Film Fest? I honestly can't remember but it must have been) - obv this was American Movie I am speaking of.

It was completely packed and I have to say it was one of the all time great movie experiences I've ever had. (Pulp Fiction opening night in the East Village was also totally insane.) Everyone was along for the ride, all the emotions were present, the vibe was immaculate and it was a very special experience.

After it was over, someone got up and introduced Mark and Mike and they got a huge, wild ovation. They were, and I can't stress this enough, fully blown away in one of the most honest and humble ways I have ever seen. They were of course, super hilarious, buzzed and just having the best time.

My friend and I were compelled to go to down front afterwards and shake their hands. Super nice guys, the best. Mike was selling copies of a cassette he made (that I lost along the way unfortunately) called "Songs I Know" LOL - it had some cuts from the movie but like everything was recorded on a boombox, amazing. Incredibly enough his phone number was printed on the J-card and he said "yeah man call me anytime" and some months later on a very late evening we rang him up and had a laugh, but I don't remember the contents of the convo.

Anyhow, I've only told this story a few times in the intervening 20+ years. Sometimes, randomly, I will hear in my head "Its all right, it's ok, there's something to live for... Jesus told me so..." and I will get a little positive boost. I hope Mike had a peaceful transition to the next episode and we should all be so lucky to have wild ideas and manage to bring them to life, despite getting in the way of ourselves. ॐ

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